How did you learn to drive a manual Oppo?

"TheTurbochargedSquirrel" (thatsquirrel) 05/16/2016 at 12:40 • Filed to: None

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I am currently learning how to drive a manual on this new to me 2004 Mini Cooper. How did you learn to drive a manual?

cletus44 aka Clayton Seams > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 05/16/2016 at 12:46

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2007 Corvette. Lots of accidental burnouts.

Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 05/16/2016 at 12:47

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~97 TDI Jetta. Boatloads of torque so very forgiving.

TheTurbochargedSquirrel > cletus44 aka Clayton Seams 05/16/2016 at 12:47

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Its probably a good thing this car only has 115hp. I have a habit of using too much throttle.

Steve is equipped with Electronic Fool Injection > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 05/16/2016 at 12:47

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1979 Bronco with the 3-speed manual + granny/400M

Almost identical to this one but with white “Wagon Wheels” and 31x10.50 Dick Cepek off road radials. And a weak power steering pump. The clutch was so stiff my mom couldn’t drive and I had to grab the wheel and pull to shift.

Biggus Dickus (RevsBro) > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 05/16/2016 at 12:48

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My cousin taught me on his old RX-8. I didn’t become “skilled” at it until I spent some time on my dad’s 370z. I’ve become quite refined since I have been somewhat DD’ing my M3.

Phyrxes once again has a wagon! > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 05/16/2016 at 12:48

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1985 Nissan Pickup with power nothing, but I didn’t actually daily drive a manual for years.

McMike > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 05/16/2016 at 12:49

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Does anyone remember when shopping malls didn’t open until noon on Sundays? That’s when (and where) I learned. We would drive around the parking lot in 1st and 2nd gear starting and stopping at least once a month.

The instructor: Dad

The vehicle: Honda Civic

Age: 10ish

He had been having me shift for him for a while before this. He would call them out, and I would select the gear.

Azrek > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 05/16/2016 at 12:49

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Mom taught me (secretly against my dad’s wishes) on our (my future car) 1988 Toyota 4Runner in an abandoned warehouse parking lot.

After I drove it through Chicago at 16, I knew I had pretty much mastered it.

Jcarr > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 05/16/2016 at 12:49

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‘95 Mustang V6. It had no power, but it was actually quite fun to learn on. Very forgiving.

Stapleface > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 05/16/2016 at 12:50

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I first tried learning in a 68 Mustang. I just couldn’t get the hang of it at all. About 8 months later I tried again in a 86 Honda Accord, and it was pretty darn painless. My stepdad taught me both times. Just found an empty parking lot and figured it out.

If I was teaching someone, I'd find an area that has a slight incline, and teach someone that way. When the car doesn't roll back is when you start to use the accelerator.

V8soundRIOT- Now Has a V8 > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 05/16/2016 at 12:50

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I learned on a ‘15 Mustang GT. Best days of when I was learning how to drive.

MGS315 > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 05/16/2016 at 12:51

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UK based, pretty much mandatory. Ford Focus 1.6 TDCi. Couldn’t be more boring.

Never driven an auto.

interstate366, now In The Industry > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 05/16/2016 at 12:51

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My dad’s mid-90s 4-cylinder Ranger. Conveniently, the last automatic car I owned was totaled just as I was getting the hang of manual, and I made the switch with my next car.

d15b > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 05/16/2016 at 12:51

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Here is how to do it:

Turn on vehicle

Put car into gear

Let go of the clutch with your left foot. When it is about to die, put your foot back in, pressing the pedal when the engine is about to stall

The goal of this exercise is to get used to feeling when the clutch is at the “balance” point of when you should be applying gas.

Once you got that “balance” point down, it will all fall into place!

Let me know how it goes. :)

XJDano > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 05/16/2016 at 12:52

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I bought one.

66671 - 200 [METRIC] my dash > cletus44 aka Clayton Seams 05/16/2016 at 12:54

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“Accidental"

TheTurbochargedSquirrel > d15b 05/16/2016 at 12:55

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I will have to try that. The Mini doesn’t have much clutch feel.

fennelbreath > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 05/16/2016 at 12:55

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1991 GTI, stalling out all over my hilly college town.

Land_Yacht_225 > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 05/16/2016 at 12:56

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My father yelling at me, from moment one, from the passenger seat of his bright blue 1999 VW Beetle GLS 1.8T 5-speed. Ah, memories. I learned 2 things, how to stick, and that I HATE VAG TRANSMISSIONS!

I facilitates that beetle being sold in exchange for our Jaguar. We’re much happier with the Jaguar.

Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 05/16/2016 at 12:57

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E46 convertible.

d15b > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 05/16/2016 at 12:58

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Do that for like 30 minutes. I’m sure you will get it.

Hey Julie > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 05/16/2016 at 12:59

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I bought an FC RX7 and taught myself in the parking lot of my work

JRapp: now as good as new again > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 05/16/2016 at 12:59

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Learned to shift on a motorcycle first. Then, bought a manual car and just sat down and drove... I don’t remember there being any learning curve there.

CalzoneGolem > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 05/16/2016 at 13:00

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I needed to borrow a truck to move stuff. My dad handed me his keys and went back inside. The end.

Zohaibman72 > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 05/16/2016 at 13:05

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I learned on a 1969 Dodge Charger R/T with an orange paintjob with a big 01 and confederate flag on the roof.

JK, I still don’t know how to drive manual, the furthest I’ve got is a through a parking lot in a 1997 Acura EL (1997 Honda Civic basically)

LongbowMkII > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 05/16/2016 at 13:08

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I learned in my high school parking lot. Slight hill so I got to roll downhill to need almost no throttle then uphill to use more than average.

At first I started with way too many revs then lowered my starting rpms by 100 or so until it was smoother and became second nature.

Aaron M - MasoFiST > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 05/16/2016 at 13:09

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Lesson 1: Getting car from 0 into first gear in a parking lot

Lesson 2: Consistently starting car, getting down a road and up into third gear then back to 0.

Lesson 3: Hill starts, then downshifting under power for corners (which may have involved bombing around a forested road at extralegal speeds with my Dad yelling “brake, downshift, turn, floor it”)

Lesson 4: There was no lesson 4, but your buddies just called and you’re the only one with a car that can fit everyone and get across town. Ready?

Cé hé sin > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 05/16/2016 at 13:11

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Driving lessons in an original Mini, because that’s what you do if you can’t drive manual vehicles on an automatic-only licence.

fourvalleys > JRapp: now as good as new again 05/16/2016 at 13:12

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I did the same! It worked out surprisingly well.

My first experience driving a manual car was in a friend’s 7th gen Corolla. I didn’t tell my friend that I’d never driven a manual car before, but I didn’t stall it and it went shockingly well.

Weirdly, I love teaching friends. I didn’t have any instruction, but I always enjoy talking someone through it. It helps quite a bit that I’ve had cars with a very forgiving clutch and not much power, so it’s fairly welcoming to beginners. They always have the same reaction: “That’s not nearly as hard as I thought!”

It can’t hurt to have more people who know how to operate a standard transmission, right? A few of the people I’ve taught ended up buying a manual car afterwards and I hope they teach others, too.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 05/16/2016 at 13:12

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I had a lot of background with mowers/etc. but didn’t get serious practice in a car until a session or two in a Toyota Truck and then a few further in a Volvo 240 diesel. I didn’t get good at stick until I had my VW Rabbit pickup. None of the above had any kind of power at all, so applicability to your Mini (even non-S) of any of my methods is limited - failure was mostly “you stalled it”, more than “the clutch is now on fire”.

Flyboy is FAA certified insane > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 05/16/2016 at 13:13

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Try to get the car rolling without using the gas pedal. Best way to learn clutch bite point.

I learned because my dad handed me the keys to A Chrysler Crossfire and said have fun. Really easy car to learn on for the same reason as a Corvette. Lots of torque so it’s hard to stall.

Takuro Spirit > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 05/16/2016 at 13:14

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In two parts: At my first dealership job we had a S-10 trash truck that was beat down, rusty, but started every time. We’d load it with garbage from the “Quick Lane”, and drive it back to the waaaaaaay back of the grounds, where the dumpsters were.

It was a stick, cable clutch, not sure what engine, but one of the guys I worked with taught me how to drive stick in it. In the snow, so it was easier to get going because wheel spin. It looked a bit like this:

That job didn’t last long, and I didn’t have a manual car myself to drive for several years.... then along came my cousin who wanted her Talon gone out of her life.

For free.

My first time OWNING a stick car was also the longest distance I had driven one to this point. Not just around a parking lot, but 200+ miles home.

Pretty much every car since then has been manual if it was available as such.

TheTurbochargedSquirrel > Aaron M - MasoFiST 05/16/2016 at 13:16

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I went over to a business complex in town with my dad yesterday. We did starts, stops, starts on a slight incline, 3rd to 2nd at speed. Covered all the basics. I don’t think I have to worry about lesson 4 with a mini.

Sneaky Pete > MGS315 05/16/2016 at 13:17

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It could definitely be more boring, it could be an auto. Lol

TheTurbochargedSquirrel > LongbowMkII 05/16/2016 at 13:18

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My issue is also too many revs. End up at 2000 instead of the 1200-1500 I need.

TheTurbochargedSquirrel > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 05/16/2016 at 13:19

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Stalling is very much prefered to frying the clutch.

Hammerdown > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 05/16/2016 at 13:19

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The better question is “how did you learn clutch control?” For me, it was getting hired as a farmhand at 15 and driving tractors every day. Then, getting a motorcycle at 16. I’ve never owned a manual transmission car, but when I drive one I never have problems because of those two opportunities.

sony1492 > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 05/16/2016 at 13:20

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http://oppositelock.kinja.com/the-6-speed-sc…

It can be summed up as, I learned to drive manual by going out and driving manual.

The Crazy Kanuck; RIP Oppositelock > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 05/16/2016 at 13:20

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Bought it at a Toronto dealer, never drove manual before. Had to drive 401 in the middle of Toronto at 5:30 on a Friday. I’m still on the original clutch a year after I got it.

djmt1 > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 05/16/2016 at 13:23

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In a Cosra diesel. Have to pay extra to learn in an Auto, hence why 98% of new UK drivers in 2015 have manual licences. That 2% shouldn’t be allowed to drive because if you don’t have the mental capacity to work a clutch, I doubt you can safety navigate traffic nor pay attention to your surroundings. This may sound harsh but in the UK autos cost more in all aspects so why are you paying more so that you can continue to pay more.

Sneaky Pete > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 05/16/2016 at 13:23

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Learned on my parents’ 1990 Accord LX with my dad in the passenger seat. I was also learning how to drive a car. Lots of jerry starts and stops, worrying about what rpm to Rev up to be for releasing the clutch. What really helped was learning on a slight incline. Helped me get a feel for the engagement point. This was after I accidentally did a big burnout through the intersection after a moving truck stopped directly behind me at a stop sign.

The secret, like with learning most things in life, is practice, practice, practice.

Aaron M - MasoFiST > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 05/16/2016 at 13:24

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You see, that’s what I thought too, driving a Celica.

FoilyDoily > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 05/16/2016 at 13:25

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MisterDoily taught me in a parking garage in a 2.7 allroad. My ex had been a dick about his car and made me so stressed about making any mistakes that I couldn’t learn - I was terrified of it. MisterDoily thought this was ridiculous and was so good about teaching me. I picked it up and my last two cars have both been manual.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 05/16/2016 at 13:25

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Oddly, one of the best vehicles to learn stick on seems to be a Series Land Rover. My mom more or less learned stick on one, and my cousin is teaching his girlfriend on one. Chuggy low-powered engine - but with a heavy flywheel, low gearing, long gear throw with decisive gear lock, good clutch feel, and a need to rev match going from first to second or it makes angry noises.

Caleb "If a rally car can do it, so can my Malibu" M. S. > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 05/16/2016 at 13:28

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A family friend told me he had a “Nice easy learner’s car” and would be showing up sometime. He showed up the next night at my house in this:

A 1970 Dodge Challenger with the carbonated 440 cu-inch V8 and a 3-speed.

To be fair, it was an easy learners’ car, and after a full night of 4 hours+ driving around our small town, I basically had the hang of it. Only stalled it a total of 2 times, both when trying to find reverse. The biggest issue for me then, and to this day is the shift from 1st to 2nd, but that is going away slowly but surely.

MUSASHI66 > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 05/16/2016 at 13:35

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I learned in one of these babies

Zastava 128, or a Yugo with a trunk. I don’t remember much about it - it was some 20 years ago. What I do remember is my dad letting me drive our big Mercedes cargo van, with a manual as well. We were on a very steep hill in Belgrade, and I had to pull the handbrake, gun the van, and release the handbrake at the same time in order not to stall it or go backwards. That still seems to me as one of the scariest moments of driving.

It looks somewhat like this - maybe older, maybe newer, in dark green. It had a Recaro drivers seat!

WiscoProud > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 05/16/2016 at 13:36

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I had some experience with motorcycles. However, (sadly) I taught myself on customer vehicles at the auto body shop I worked at one summer. One of my jobs was to move all the cars in and out each day, and we would inevitably have a few with manuals. Lots of stalls and jerky action on them.

TheVancen- In Pursuit of a Greater Payday and Car Parts > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 05/16/2016 at 13:39

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I fried the clutch out of my mothers old Ford Focus. The same one I wrecked last fall in fact.

TheNeonDriver - Now with More BMW! > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 05/16/2016 at 13:39

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In one of these Beasts: 1989 Civic Wagon.

Mom had one of these, dad had a non-turbo diesel 6.2L 1985 GMC Sierra, c/w a manual tow truck transmission, which game him a lower 1st and higher final gear (5 speed instead of 4).

Showing my age probably.

bingham123 > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 05/16/2016 at 13:42

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when i was 8 my frends dad let le loose in a 1.0l ford fiesta mk2, my instructions were “dont crash into the house”. after half hour of failing to go anywere he came and showed me how to drive it round the fields.

living in the uk almost everyone drives manual.

Speed > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 05/16/2016 at 13:44

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I learned on a four wheeler. The first time I ever drove a manual car (my buddie’s Integra) I just applied the rules I learned on the Blaster to the controls of the car and it worked perfectly. I learned to do it well valeting Porsches, Audis, BMW’s and other expensive things.

Little Black Coupe Turned Silver > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 05/16/2016 at 13:46

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1989 Cavalier. The driver was the only one with a seatbelt, and the rear passenger door was too dented to open. The headlight switch controlled the radiator fan. Car was used for a demo derby the next year. There were two or three of us who set out to learn that day, and one friend teaching.

Literally drove around in a friend’s pasture. They had a lot of trails already formed that we used. At one point I stalled going up a hill and we rolled backwards in such a way the exhaust pipe filled with dirt and mud. Instead of cleaning it, the car was jacked up and the exhaust was cut off in the downpipe.

Good times.

Out, but with a W - has found the answer > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 05/16/2016 at 13:47

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As long as you don’t let go of the clutch too quickly, you should also be able to get most cars rolling using only the left pedal. Same goal, but you get the sense of accomplishment that comes with a moving car.

There are some additional indications that you’re reaching the bite point, such as a small drop in revs and extra vibrations, but they can be almost unnoticeable depending on the car and engine. These are what you can use as clues when doing a hill start: keep your foot on the brake (or your hand brake engaged, depending on your preference), slowly let up the clutch and once the cars starts shaking, apply some throttle (and release the hand brake).

Dave the car guy , still here > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 05/16/2016 at 13:51

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My father left me at the dealership with my just purchased used 68' Fiat and said drive it home. I was two hours from home. I’d seen people use a stick before but never had used one. In two hours time I taught myself.

PorkchoPlissken > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 05/16/2016 at 13:56

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My father would hit our pos chevette with a baseball bat until I managed to take off. He would then follow me, just in case I stalled, so he could beat the shit out of the car some more. I had to pay for the damages. So...fear is how I learned. Thanks pops.

Shankems > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 05/16/2016 at 13:57

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My father coached me through it just 2 months ago. He drove my new Chevy SS off the lot for me, to my company parking lot. The salesman got a real kick out of it. The clutch is not forgiving. AT ALL.

(not my pic below, but same color)

Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 05/16/2016 at 13:57

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My mom taught me on my dad’s Xb.

I learned to heel toe in my Civic Si

PartyPooper2012 > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 05/16/2016 at 14:00

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Wax on, wax off. First you must control the throttle. What you do is keep throttle at say 1000 rpm. Put it in gear and slowly let the clutch out.. you will notice a drop in RPM..say 200 rpm. You want to adjust your throttle to get back to 1000. You stall when your RPM drops too much. You don’t need to red line it or stomp the gas. Learn the throttle control. then learn letting the clutch out and all that fancy stuff.

My dad showed me manual a few times. it ended up in him yelling a lot... me sweating a lot... me finally catching that clutch/throttle combo to start rolling and i preyed to god he would leave me alone after that.

I actually later learned on my own in the driveway. Going back and forth 1st and reverse back and forth.. basically doing what i said earlier... just maintaining that throttle at take off. everything else after that is easy.. you’re rolling... you can push clutch in and switch gears and let clutch out... you will hear your car growl at you when she’s not happy. remember to look in mirror and out the window to not run over anyone while doing this... easy to keep your head down to look at your foot work and tach.

Jarrett - [BRZ Boi] > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 05/16/2016 at 14:08

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At 9:00pm on a Tuesday during last September. The rain pouring down, I was 2 hours away from my home, and I was with the Miata that I had just paid cash for (and took the train to pick up).

10/10 would trial by fire again

BrianGriffin thinks “reliable” is just a state of mind > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 05/16/2016 at 14:10

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My friend had this POS Subaru wagon. He never removed the keys from the ignition. When I had a chance, I drove it around to learn stick by doing.

Dru > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 05/16/2016 at 14:16

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Actually on a 2002 Mini S. Not the most forgiving clutch, but supercharger whine makes up for it. Dad still has the car, he purchased it new.

If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 05/16/2016 at 14:18

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My dad parked his Tacoma halfway up a hill, put me in the driver’s seat, and told me to get it going.

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 05/16/2016 at 14:54

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In my sister’s notchback 80's mustang in a quiet neighborhood around the corner from our house.

I (still) have a problem with too much gas when letting off the clutch, I tend to spin tires. I’m completely capable of driving around in a manual, but never having owned one I’m far from graceful.

TheTurbochargedSquirrel > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 05/16/2016 at 15:14

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Just completed round 2 in the mini. Took my mom to her dentists appointment and back. Only stalled it once taking off from a light though I will admit I rushed that launch.

Nymphicus Hollandicus > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 05/16/2016 at 15:16

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I learned on my dad’s 2003 Chevy Tracker, it was a fun truck but he wrecked it a month before my 17th birthday

Ilike_cougars > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 05/16/2016 at 15:16

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Watching my dad. When I jumped into the drivers seat when I was 13-14 years old it felt pretty instinctual.

Camshaft Chris: Skyline/McLaren/Porsche Fanboy > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 05/16/2016 at 15:18

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Believe it or not, I learned the basic ideas of manual shifting by playing racing video games, lol. I know it sounds stupid, but it does give you the general idea of listening to the engine to tell you when to shift instead of just reading the tach.

The first actual cars I learned in was a 1994 Mazda Protege; then a 1974 Pontiac Trans Am 455, two very different experiences, lol. The Protege was with my mom, who bet me I couldn’t make it to the end of the street without stalling (I made it to the all the way to the store :P). The Trans Am was my dad teaching me how to do a burnout by just dumping the clutch (my car was a slow-matic so I had never had the opportunity to try this before, lol).

PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 05/16/2016 at 15:24

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when I was 13 with my dad in his winter beater (1991 VW golf Diesel non-turbo) he was like “ok, you’re driving for the next hour” put me in the drivers seat and showed me what to do. I stalled it once, then rode the clutch and got it moving. from there, I just practiced in that car, then moved on to a 1995 seat Toledo TDI, then an mk4 GTI, then took my driver’s ed test in a 2012 jetta 2.5 5-speed, and then got really good in my car (2012 GLI) with a few extra experiences (driving on track, driving a 700hp vette....) along the way!

Dusty Ventures > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 05/16/2016 at 15:33

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Got a 30 minute lesson in a Jeep with about 8 inches of lift, 35 inch tires, and more body roll than Homer Simpson at sea in a hurricane. Followed that up with the one-day class at O’Neil (there were stalls), and then housed (and periodically drove) a friend’s rally car for about a year.

In other words I learned the unconventional way...

Et tu, Hellcat? > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 05/16/2016 at 15:54

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Bought a car with a 6-speed as my first (owned and paid for) vehicle figuring there’s no better motivation than trapping yourself in the situation. After a brief lesson with my dad, essentially spent the first week of ownership practicing starting from a dead stop til I felt I could comfortably drive anywhere without stalling.

flyingmetalbird > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 05/16/2016 at 17:39

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I love that Carrera spoof stripe on there! That's sweet:)

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 05/16/2016 at 18:02

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My Dad bought a 1978 Subaru BRAT for $275 specifically to learn to drive in. In the process of that he taught me to drive manual in the field behind my house. I put hundreds of miles on that thing in the field. I hope someday I can find that thing, or at least one like it.

TheTurbochargedSquirrel > flyingmetalbird 05/16/2016 at 18:14

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You can’t see them in the photo but there are little British flags behind the door handles. The stripes are my favorite detail.

TheTurbochargedSquirrel > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 05/16/2016 at 18:16

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I want a brat so bad.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 05/16/2016 at 18:17

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It was awesome!

12and35 > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 05/16/2016 at 18:35

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My mother taught me in a 1993 Honda Prelude SI. Shes in her 60s now and drives a manual GTI.

jkm7680 > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 05/16/2016 at 21:52

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My father told me just to “drive it” and I slowly figured it out on my own.

Denver Is Stuck In The 90s > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 05/16/2016 at 21:54

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I bought a RWD V6 1993 Ranger with a 5 speed and a new clutch for 3k, Then got my license after 7 hours of practice in a FWD automatic minivan, then drove the crap outta the Ranger in the middle of one of the worst Colorado winters in decades. Do Not Recommend

gogmorgo - rowing gears in a Grand Cherokee > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 05/16/2016 at 23:30

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I basically taught myself on the drive home after buying the Niva.

CCC (formerly CyclistCarCoexist) > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 05/17/2016 at 02:46

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This was my dad’s 2000 Tacoma SR5 Double Cab. It had 400,000 on the odo and had a busted head. But it was the car I learned to drive stick in those countless hours of community college parking lots.

flyingmetalbird > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 05/17/2016 at 13:42

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That's awesome